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库里比杜兰特影响更大,吸引了更多防守,他引领了一个新的时代?

2017-06-19 20:00:03    美国JRs之声

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库里比杜兰特影响更大,吸引了更多防守,他引领了一个新的时代?


"The Warriors outscored their opponents by 3.1 points per 100 possessions when Durant was playing and Curry was not; that number jumped to 16.1 points per 100 possessions with Curry on the court and Durant on the sidelines."Analysis (fivethirtyeight.com)

“当杜兰特在场而库里休息时,勇士每百回合比对手多得3.1分;而当库里上场,杜兰特休息时,这一差距则跳跃到了16.1分。”分析表明。

 



[–]RaptorsJDrakeR 183 指標 20小時前

The reason Curry is the best PG in the league is because he doesn't mind being the decoy to draw defenses away in order to make his teammates better. The fact that he's also an elite ball handler and playmaker makes it almost unfair

库里是联盟里最好控卫的原因便是他不在意在进攻端成为对手的诱饵,从而吸引防守让队友们变得更好。而他同时也是一名顶尖持球手和组织者的事实则让这一切几乎显得不公平。

[–]NetsKashMoney941 81 指標 19小時前

Yea, crazy that some see his relatively low assist numbers (as if 7 assists for a dude that shoots as well and plays off ball as much as him is something to scoff at) and think he's not as good a playmaker as other dudes that average 9-10+ assists. But honestly, he is the epitome of an unselfish playmaker in that he doesn't even need to touch the ball on any possession to get a wide open look for his teammates. I don't think any other dude in history has created as many baskets for his team that he didnt get box score credit for as Curry has. Even when you account for hockey assists (which nba.com tracks and he has been at the top of the league), that doesnt take into account how many times a simple cut or screen from him attracts 2-3 defenders and leaves a teammate wide open for a score. The stats are clear, with his teammates this season shooting an average of 8.3% worse without him on the floor, with the next biggest similar impact being LeBron at less than half of that (3.9%).

Is it the traditional type of playmaking that we've always expected from a PG? No, but it clearly is just as much, if not more, effective than the other methods.

是的,很疯狂的一件事就是一些人看到库里相对较低的助攻数(好像场均7个助攻对于像他这样投篮如此出色,无球打得如此之多的球员来说是值得嘲笑的一样)就认为他的组织能力没有其他那些场均9-10个助攻的球员强。但是事实上库里是无私组织者的典范,他甚至都不需要在任何回合里碰球就能让队友得到大空位。我不认为历史上有任何其他球员像库里这样为自己的队友创造了如此多的得分机会,却没有得到数据统计表的认可。就算你加上冰球助攻(即间接助攻,nba.com统计了这一数据,库里为联盟第一),也不能完全体现库里的作用,他一个简单的切入或是掩护就能吸引2-3名防守者,然后让其他一名队友得到大空位的得分机会。下面这项数据显示的非常清楚,这赛季当库里不在场时,队友们的平均命中率下降了8.3%,而这一影响力排名第二的勒布朗只有库里的一半还不到(3.9%)。

请问这是传统意义上我们指望控卫打出的组织吗?并不是,但是显然它和其他的方式一样有效,如果没有超过它们的话。

[–][CLE] Mark PriceWitOfTheIrish 23 指標 16小時前

Advanced stats will always show his impact. Just give it a while for some bench players to rotate out of GSW's roster, and watch their efficiency drop off a cliff without the space and open looks.

高阶数据总是会显示出库里的影响,就看看当一些板凳球员离开勇士的阵容,没有那些空间和空位后,过一段时间后他们的效率是如何像过山车一般下跌的吧。

[–][GSW] Ian Clarkoscarony 19 指標 15小時前

Brandon Rush this year is the perfect example

今年的布兰登-拉什便是典型的例子。


[–]BucksHard4Favra 1442 指標 22小時前

Curry's gravity is real. It's obvious how much he opens the game up for everyone else.

Durant was a deserving FMVP but I think GSW suffer way more if they lose Curry as opposed to Durant.

库里对防守的吸引力真不是开玩笑的,显然他让其他每个球员的比赛都变得更容易了。

杜兰特值得这座FMVP,但是我认为相比与杜兰特,失去库里会让勇士受到大得多的伤害。

[–][GSW] Klay Thompsonkashmoney55 44 指標 19小時前

One of the best examples of Curry gravity was in game 1. The Cavs just let KD walk to the basket a few times, because they were so scared of Curry at the 3 point line. That is crazy.

库里对防守的吸引力最好的例子便是总决赛的G1,骑士有好几次就直接放任杜兰特杀向篮下了,因为他们太害怕站在三分线外的库里了。这非常疯狂。

[–]WarriorsErneh 680 指標 22小時前

Curry is our most valuable offensive player. The cavs have been somewhat good 'curry stoppers' over the past few years and yet again, this year curry got the most attention in terms of their defensive gameplan. Kd capitalized on this.

勇士球迷:库里是我们在进攻端最有价值的球员,骑士在过去几年中都扮演了非常好的“库里阻挡者”角色,而且今年也是同样,库里在他们的防守计划中得到了最大的关注。杜兰特则利用了这一点。

[–]Warriorsorchid_breeder 341 指標 21小時前

They're curry stoppers because they literally face guard him starting at half court. It allows the Warriors to play 4-3 for a lot of their possessions.

骑士成为库里阻挡者的原因便是他们几乎从半场开始就贴脸夹击防守他了,这也让勇士在很多的回合里能够形成4-3的局面。

[–]SpursShadrack579 61 指標 20小時前

It's what people on this sub were saying when the Warriors signed KD, and at the start of the season: Golden State became a slightly worse regular season team, but a much better playoff team.

这就是当勇士签下杜兰特,在赛季刚开始时这个论坛里大多数人说的事情:勇士变成了一支稍微弱一点的常规赛球队,却成为了一支强得多的季后赛球队。

[–]SpursHSTmjr 36 指標 20小時前

Curry has a primeShaq-like effect of changing how the defenses contort to guard him. The spacing is outrageous for the other players on the court

库里就像巅峰沙克那样能够改变对手的防守计划,迫使着对方去限制他,场上其他球员得到的空间是不可思议的。


[–]Warriorsuntouchable765 145 指標 21小時前

Inb4 it's Warriors vs Cavs again next year and KD get doubled while Curry drops 40 a game.

明年肯定还是勇士对阵骑士,如果杜兰特被包夹的话,库里便会砍下40分。

[–][GSW] Stephen CurryiChristiaNn 61 指標 21小時前

They'll still keep doubling Curry. If they double KD, you not only get a 40pt Curry, but you'll also get rest of the guys in rhythm on offense.

骑士仍然还是会包夹库里的,如果他们包夹杜兰特的话,你不仅仅会得到一个40分的库里,同时你也会让勇士其他的球员在进攻端找到节奏。

[–]BullsYcantweBfrients 178 指標 21小時前

I would love to see this. Curry raining fire is the most exciting thing to watch for me.

我会很希望看到这个,火力全开的库里是我看到过得最振奋人心的事情。


[–]LakersTheingloriousak2 280 指標 22小時前

Kd is the goat role player

杜兰特是史上最伟大的角色球员。

[–]Supersonicsthundercock88 176 指標 22小時前

in Simmons' recent pod with him he clearly admits that he wanted to see what it was like to only be guarded by one guy, basically he was tired of being doubled as the number one guy

在西蒙斯最近的播客节目中杜兰特显然承认了他想看看被一个人单防究竟是一种什么样的体验,基本上他已经厌倦了作为第一选择被包夹的待遇。

[–]CavaliersSmokinADoobs 95 指標 21小時前

It just clicked with me that KD (really any all-time great) has been getting doubled for probably their entire basketball career...

这也刚刚提醒了我,KD(任何史上伟大的球员)可能在他们整个职业生涯中都在被包夹。

[–]Warriors BandwagonQaanol 71 指標 19小時前

…and still scores 30 on the regular.

...但是他仍然能日常砍下30分。

[–]NBAkkrko 41 指標 19小時前

65% of his field goals in the finals were assisted while Steph has 70% of his unassisted. Shows who's the real system player.

杜兰特总决赛里65%的得分都是受助的,同时库里70%的得分则是非受助的。这显示了谁才是真正的体系球员。

[–]Knickszxnith 722 指標 22小時前

Fuck me I'm just gonna say it. Curry is easily one of the most influential players in all of NBA history. Dude ushered in an era of basketball that was on its way but no one saw it coming like this. Yeah we were already "spacing" better and shooting more 3s but not off-the-dribble pulling up from outta space. The fucking Oracle of Oracle, prophet of the triple.

见鬼,但是我就是想说这个,库里很显然是NBA历史上最具影响力的球员之一。这家伙引领了一个新的篮球时代,在朝着自己的方式向前,但是之前没有任何人预料过程会是这样。是的,现在场上的“空间感”已经变得更好,而且大家也出手了更多的三分,但是并不是像库里这样运球后从外太空拔起投篮。他是甲骨文中的长老,三分球的先知。

[–]KnicksRunningForIt 101 指標 21小時前

I know a lot of people are appreciating the game now, but I can't wait until 15-20 years from now, looking back at how big of a moment the past few year have been for the NBA.


我知道许多人都在赞美现在的比赛方式,但是我等不及在15-20年后,再回首看看这过去几年对于NBA的发展究竟产生了多么巨大的影响。



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