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夏联的杜兰特篮板和投篮都很差,邓肯也被打爆过,不能借此评判球员

2017-07-11 18:04:03    美国JRs之声

美国JRS之声

夏联的杜兰特篮板和投篮都很差,邓肯也被打爆过,不能借此评判球员

"Durant couldn’t rebound and he couldn’t shoot." Article from 2007 shows why Summer League performances doesn't necessarily translate to the NBA. (wagesofwins.com)

“杜兰特篮板很差并且没有投篮。”——这句来自一篇2007年关于夏季联赛文章里的话,也体现了为什么球员们在夏季联赛的表现并不一定会转化到NBA当中。




[–]RaptorsRallyks 455 指標 18小時前*

Anyone remember when Greg Ostertag absolutely dominated a young Tim Duncan in summer league?

EDIT: ffs I am old.

还有任何人记得格雷格-奥斯特塔格在夏季联赛把邓肯打爆了的时候吗?

注:原来TMD我已经老了。

[–]Thunderasianxero 955 指標 16小時前

anyone remember when pangaea split up?

楼上是指泛大陆分裂的时候吗?

[–][LAL] Tyronn Luecrunklos 55 指標 15小時前

I wasn't alive yet, sorry

Edit: nvm I was 1 y/o

不好意思那时候我还没出生呢

注:没关系,我那时候一岁。

[–]Bulls53toaster 430 指標 19小時前

Lonzo can rebound and not shoot. Lonzo confirmed to be better than Durant

鲍尔虽然没有投篮但能够抢篮板,所以他一定会比杜兰特出色,板上钉钉了。


[–]Hawks BandwagonFelixFelinus 42 指標 15小時前

For real. It's weird that people actually watch summer league now.

说真的。现在人们真的会看夏季联赛这个现象挺奇怪的。

[–]LakersILOVEBASKETBALL24 61 指標 15小時前

I seriously doubt the amount of people posting on here about summer league actually watch summer league.

You can tell by the type of posts. They're purely about box scores and end results. No one mentions any sort of analysis or even what's going on in the damn game

It's just "wow 27 pts so good future GOAT" and "BUST FUCKING BUST HE MISSED 10 SHOTS BUST"

Zero thought put into posts. All just karma grabs.

我真的对于这群在这儿谈论夏季联赛的人是否真正看过夏季联赛表示怀疑。

你可以从他们的评论的类型就能区别出来。他们真的只是看数据统计和赛后结果。没有人提到任何一种比赛的分析或者甚至都不提比赛中发生了什么。

他们只是说:“哇,这家伙得了27分啊,未来很有可能成为历史最佳球员哦!”,或者就是:“瓜皮,太特么菜了,他竟然投丢了10次,真是菜鸡啊!”

都是这类无脑的评论和玄学说法。

[–]BucksMrCrushus 3 指標 13小時前*

I actually like watching summer league, but people watch it for the wrong reasons.

You can't tell who will be a star or who won't be.

But you can sorta tell what players have a chance at making a roster tho.

You cant tell what second year players will take a leap, but you can tell which ones won't.

我确实喜欢看夏季联赛,但是人们看它的初衷错了。

你无法从夏季联赛看出谁将是球星和谁将是普通球员。

但是你可以部分的分辨出那些球员有机会进入球队大名单。

你无法看出哪些二年级生会发生质变,但是你能看出其中哪些不能。

[–]Hawksnerdyintentions 41 指標 17小時前

People forget how young these 1 and done players are. They were playing in high school gyms in 2015. Now they are playing with guys that are sometimes 5-6 years older (with grown man bodies) and 2nd year players that have NBA experience (meaning they spent every day of last year playing basketball instead of taking breaks to pretend to be a student). Its a big step up in competition even from college ball.

人们忘了这些只打了一年大学篮球就参加选秀的球员们是多么的年轻了。他们在2015年还在高中的球馆里打球呢,而现在面对的对手里有的就已经比他们大五六岁了(身体已经是成人的模样了),以及那些二年级的已经有NBA经验的球员(意味着这些人在去年的每一天里都在进行篮球训练,而不是时不时的假装自己是学生而花时间去学习)。就算是大学篮球比赛,和现在的夏季联赛相比,也存在着很大的差距。

[–]Timberwolvesmonolith17 25 指標 19小時前

There is a major difference from analyzing a player's current capabilities, and pretending there are long term ramifications.

Certain skills pop in SL for certain guys, which is great. But making grand statements about it is stupid.

Also, i think we have enough a track record that overqualified year 2 players almost always look great in SL.

分析球员现有能力和预计未来的结果是有很大不同的。

有些特定球员能在夏季联赛中展现出的特定的能力,这是极好的。但是仅仅据此去做一个宏伟的预测就是非常愚蠢的了。

还有,我认为已经有足够的样本量表明,资历超出夏联水平的那些NBA二年级球员们,几乎在夏季联赛中看起来都非常不错。

[–]76ersWilt2DrJ2Chuck2AI2Jo 1 指標 20小時前

ahh gotcha. i feel like everything in summer league needs to be taken with a huge grain of salt, but there is a purpose to summer league, you can definitely learn things about these players

啊,是的!我感觉夏季联赛中发生的任何事情都被极大的添油加醋了,但是夏季联赛的存在是有目的的,你绝对能了解到这些球员们身上的一些东西。

[–]RocketsSolar24 3 指標 20小時前

for sure. Its always a good benchmark. However, this environment is tough. You have 70% of these guys playing who are trying to make it big in the league.

All the guys who dont have guarantee's are fighting for every possession. They have everything to lose. Thats why it is such a physical (and oftentimes out of control) game.

当然了。夏季联赛总是一个很好的标准。然而,这个环境的竞争很激烈。百分之七十的夏季联赛球员是在玩命想要打进NBA的。

所有没有保障合同的球员都会为了每一个回合去拼命,比赛对于他们来说就是一切。这就是为什么夏季联赛的对抗总是那么激烈(并且经常失控)的原因。


[–][NYK] Carmelo Anthonypolandspreeng 1 指標 20小時前

Durant shouldn't have to round. Why does it matter? Because of his height? In college he was a shooting guard.

Also he's grown taller.

Definitely summer league is an understatement. These kids need work ethic like kawhi and develop and grow continuously.

杜兰特本来就不应该去抢篮板。这重要吗?就因为他长得高吗?在大学他打的可是得分后卫。

而且他又长高了。

显然夏季联赛并不能反应出什么东西来,这些的新秀们需要具有伦纳德那样的工作态度,从而不断的进步和成长。

[–]WarriorsDubsFan30113523 14 指標 20小時前

he plays SF/PF for us, he better rebound lol

勇士球迷:杜兰特在我们球队打的小前锋/大前锋,所以他最好去抢篮板,哈哈哈。

[–]Rorge-Dela-Cruz 3 指標 17小時前

He got a lot of boards on Tristan Thompson's head. He already showed a lot of potential as a rebounder in college, but was probably overwhelmed by the speed, strength and size of NBA level athletes at the time.

今年杜兰特在特里斯坦-汤普森的脑壳上摘下过许多篮板。他已经在大学时期已经展现了作为一个篮板手的许多潜力,但是这一切在当时都被夏季联赛中NBA级别的速度,力量和体型所掩盖了。

[–]Rocketsbauboish 128 指標 20小時前

Before people say young players always improve, this isn't actually the case. To just naturally assume progression is a false, and to both Durant's credit and that of OKC coaches, he did make great leaps and strides to become the efficiency machine of today.

Lonzo Ball may or may not be a great NBA player, but he sure as well has a lot to work on to get there, regardless of what his dad thinks.


人们说年轻人总在进步,但事实并不是如此。你理所应当的假设球员会自然性的进步其实是错的。这里要给杜兰特和雷霆教练们一些认可,他确实产生了质的飞跃,并成为了如今效率恐怖的得分机器。所以,郎佐-鲍尔可能是个伟大的NBA球员,也可能不是,但是有一点是确定的,要想达到预期目标,鲍尔需要做的还有很多,不管他的老爸是怎么想的。



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